
Garmin Forerunner 165 Music Review: Worth It? Specs, Music, Calls
You’ve probably wondered whether spending extra on a running watch with music storage is actually worth it—especially when the non-music version is perfectly capable. The Garmin Forerunner 165 Music, launched in February 2024, is the cheapest Garmin running watch with an AMOLED screen and offline music, but it also comes with deliberate limitations that might surprise you. This review breaks down the key differences, battery trade-offs, and whether the extra $50 makes sense for your runs.
Battery life (smartwatch mode): Up to 11 days ·
Battery life (GPS mode): Up to 19 hours ·
Music playback (GPS mode): Up to 6.5 hours ·
Display: 1.2-inch AMOLED touchscreen
Quick snapshot
- 1.2-inch AMOLED display (Garmin Philippines, official product page)
- Up to 500 songs offline (Garmin Owner’s Manual)
- No speaker or microphone (iRunFar, running tech review)
- Battery: 11 days smartwatch, 19 hours GPS (Triathlete, multisport publication)
- Exact song count depends on file size and bitrate (Garmin Owner’s Manual)
- Whether future firmware adds Bluetooth call answering (Reddit forum discussion, low confidence)
- Real‑world GPS battery life may be shorter than 19 hours depending on settings and terrain (Men’s Fitness, health magazine)
- Always‑on display usage reduces battery life by more than half in some user reports (Reddit user review, low confidence)
- Announced February 2024, available March 2024 (Garmin Philippines)
- No subsequent hardware updates as of Q1 2025 (iRunFar, running tech review)
- Garmin may iterate with more features in the next Forerunner series (Triathlete, multisport publication)
- For now, the 165 Music is the entry-level AMOLED option in Garmin’s lineup (Running Shoes Guru, gear review site)
Here are the key specifications at a glance.
| Release date | February 2024 |
| Price (MSRP) | $299.99 (Music model) |
| Display type | AMOLED, 390 x 390 pixels |
| Storage for music | 4 GB (approx. 500 songs) |
| Water rating | 5 ATM (50 meters) |
| Weight | 39 g (case only) |
Is the Forerunner 165 Music worth it?
Who is the Forerunner 165 Music for?
- Runners who want offline music without bringing a phone (Garmin Philippines)
- Budget-conscious buyers who still want an AMOLED display—this is the cheapest Garmin with that screen (iRunFar)
- Marathoners who need 19 hours of GPS tracking (Run Weekly, running magazine)
The watch targets anyone who values core running metrics—pace, heart rate, training status—without the weight or price of a full smartwatch. For those upgrading from a basic fitness band, the AMOLED screen is a noticeable step up.
What are the main drawbacks?
- No speaker or microphone means you cannot answer calls or use a voice assistant (iRunFar)
- Always-on display cuts battery life by more than half, according to user reports (Reddit user review, low confidence)
- Proprietary charging cable—no USB-C compatibility (Garmin Owner’s Manual)
These omissions are deliberate segmentation choices. Garmin reserves voice assistant and call handling for its Venu and Fenix series, which cost significantly more.
Buyers get a premium display and music playback for $299, but accept zero smartwatch communication features. For runners who never take calls mid-run, the trade-off is easy. For anyone hoping the watch could double as a phone companion, it falls short.
What’s the difference between Garmin 165 and 165 Music?
Two models, one hardware platform. The only difference is the addition of music storage and playback in the Music variant, plus a $50 price gap.
Price difference
- Standard 165: $249.99 MSRP (Running Shoes Guru)
- 165 Music: $299.99 MSRP (Garmin Philippines)
The $50 premium is identical to the price gap on previous Forerunner Music models (Triathlete).
Music storage and playback
- 165 Music: 4 GB storage for offline music, supports Spotify, Amazon Music, and Deezer (premium subscriptions required) (Garmin Philippines)
- Standard 165: No music capability whatsoever (Running Shoes Guru)
Other feature differences
- Both models share the same display, GPS, heart rate sensor, Pulse Ox, and battery life (iRunFar)
- Both have 5 ATM water resistance and the same 39‑gram case (Garmin Owner’s Manual)
The implication: if you never run with music, save $50 and buy the standard 165. If you want to leave your phone at home, spring for the Music version.
Seven spec areas, one pattern: the 165 and 165 Music are identical everywhere except music storage.
| Feature | Forerunner 165 | Forerunner 165 Music |
|---|---|---|
| Display | 1.2″ AMOLED | 1.2″ AMOLED |
| GPS | GPS/GLONASS/Galileo | GPS/GLONASS/Galileo |
| Heart rate monitor | Yes | Yes |
| Pulse Ox | Yes | Yes |
| Battery smartwatch | 11 days | 11 days |
| Battery GPS | 19 hours | 19 hours |
| Music storage | No | Yes (4 GB / ~500 songs) |
| Price | $249.99 | $299.99 |
The catch: the $50 buys exactly one feature, but if you never use offline music, you get zero benefit.
Can Garmin Forerunner 165 Music answer calls?
Call handling capabilities
- The watch cannot answer or make calls because it lacks a speaker and microphone (Garmin Philippines)
- It can display incoming call notifications and allow you to reject or silence them (Garmin Owner’s Manual)
Notification management
- You receive call, text, and app notifications from your paired phone (iRunFar)
- You cannot reply to messages from the watch (Triathlete)
Do I need my phone to play music on my Garmin 165?
Offline music playback
Once music is synced, no phone is needed. The watch stores up to 500 songs and plays them through Bluetooth headphones (Garmin Philippines). This is the core benefit of the Music variant.
Syncing music from a computer
- Drag and drop MP3 files via USB cable using the Garmin Express app (Garmin Owner’s Manual)
- Wi‑Fi syncing from streaming services is available for supported playlists (Triathlete)
Using music services
- Works with Spotify, Amazon Music, Deezer (premium subscription required) (Garmin Philippines)
- Standard 165 cannot sync or play music at all (Running Shoes Guru)
Battery life drops to 6.5 hours when you use GPS plus music (Run Weekly). For a marathon, that’s fine. For an ultramarathon, you’ll need to recharge or turn off music.
Is a Garmin better than an Apple Watch?
Running and fitness features
- Garmin offers dedicated running metrics: training load, VO2 max estimate, recovery time, and race predictor (iRunFar)
- Apple Watch provides general fitness tracking but fewer run-specific analytics out of the box (Triathlete)
Battery life
- Forerunner 165 Music: 11 days smartwatch, 19 hours GPS (Garmin Philippines)
As Men’s Fitness noted in their review, the AMOLED screen is a battery tradeoff, and the 19-hour GPS figure is shorter than some comparable watches. Still, the 11-day smartwatch mode is superior to Apple Watch’s sub-2-day battery.
Smartwatch capabilities
- Apple Watch has cellular calling, app store, and voice assistant (Triathlete)
- Forerunner 165 Music has Garmin Pay, notifications, and music, but no speaker or app ecosystem (Garmin Philippines)
The pattern: Garmin excels at running and battery, Apple dominates smartwatch functions. The right choice depends on whether your wrist is a training tool or a phone extension. For a deeper look at value comparisons, check our review of another premium product: Galaxy S25 Plus to Buy: Is It Worth It? (irelandfocus.com).
Specifications
Eight key specs, one pattern: the 165 Music keeps weight low and battery high, but skips communication hardware.
| Spec | Value |
|---|---|
| Display size | 1.2 inches |
| Display type | AMOLED, 390 × 390 pixels |
| Lens material | Corning Gorilla Glass 3 |
| Case size | 43 x 43 x 11.6 mm |
| Weight (case only) | 39 g |
| Water rating | 5 ATM (50 meters) |
| Battery smartwatch | Up to 11 days |
| Battery GPS mode | Up to 19 hours |
| Battery GPS+music | Up to 6.5 hours |
| Music storage | 4 GB (~500 songs) |
| Connectivity | Bluetooth, ANT+, Wi-Fi |
| Sensors | HR, Pulse Ox, accelerometer, gyroscope |
The trade-off: no barometer or multi-band GPS, which are reserved for the Forerunner 265 and Fenix series.
Upsides
- Best value AMOLED running watch from Garmin
- Offline music without phone
- 19-hour GPS battery covers full marathon training
- Lightweight and comfortable for daily wear
- Garmin Pay and smart notifications
Downsides
- No call answering or voice assistant
- Proprietary charging cable (not USB-C)
- Always-on display drains battery fast
- No music on standard 165 model
- Lackluster smartwatch ecosystem vs Apple Watch
Confirmed facts vs what’s unclear
Confirmed facts
- The Forerunner 165 Music has an AMOLED display.
- It can store up to 500 songs offline.
- It cannot answer calls due to lack of speaker and microphone.
- Battery life is 11 days in smartwatch mode.
What’s unclear
- Exact song count varies with file size and bitrate.
- Whether Garmin will add Bluetooth call answering via firmware.
- Real-world GPS battery life may be shorter than 19 hours depending on settings and terrain.
- Always-on display usage reduces battery life by more than half in some user reports.
Overall, the confirmed facts are well-documented by official sources, while the uncertainties highlight areas that may evolve with future software updates or depend on individual usage.
What the experts say
The Forerunner 165 Music is a marathon smartwatch for runners with a 1.2-inch colorful AMOLED display that brings vibrant visuals to your run.
— Garmin, official product page (Garmin Philippines)
The AMOLED screen is a battery tradeoff, and the 19-hour GPS figure is shorter than some comparable watches. But for the price, it’s a solid entry-level running watch.
— Men’s Fitness, review of Forerunner 165 Music (Men’s Fitness)
Onboard music storage, including Spotify support, is the headline feature of the Music version—and it costs an extra $50.
— Triathlete, gear review (Triathlete)
The Forerunner 165 Music delivers on its promise: an affordable AMOLED running watch with offline music that lets you run phone-free. But the lack of call answering and the battery penalty for always-on display are real trade-offs. For runners in the US and Europe who log daily miles and want music without carrying a phone, the choice is clear: buy the Music version and never look back. For anyone who expects smartwatch parity with Apple, the alternative is to spend twice as much on a Venu or switch ecosystems entirely.
For a detailed look at how the music storage and call features compare in practice, see the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music im Test from a German reviewer.
Frequently asked questions
Does the Forerunner 165 Music have a speaker?
No. The watch lacks a speaker and microphone, so it cannot play audio or support voice calls. Music plays through Bluetooth headphones.
Can I use Garmin Pay on the Forerunner 165 Music?
Yes, it supports Garmin Pay for contactless payments at participating terminals.
Is the Forerunner 165 Music compatible with iPhone?
Yes, it works with both iPhone and Android phones via the Garmin Connect app.
How do I add music to my Forerunner 165 Music?
You can sync music from Spotify, Amazon Music, or Deezer over Wi‑Fi, or drag and drop MP3 files via USB using Garmin Express.
Does the Forerunner 165 Music track sleep?
Yes. It tracks sleep stages (light, deep, REM) and provides a sleep score each morning.
What is the warranty on the Forerunner 165 Music?
Garmin offers a one-year limited warranty for manufacturing defects.
Can I swim with the Forerunner 165 Music?
Yes, it is rated 5 ATM, meaning it is water-resistant to 50 meters and suitable for swimming in the pool or open water.
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